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		<title>By: RealMental &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On Mental Illness and Stigma in Medicine</title>
		<link>http://mysadalterego.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/166/#comment-724</link>
		<dc:creator>RealMental &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On Mental Illness and Stigma in Medicine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://mysadalterego.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/166/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have come so far in understanding psychiatric conditions, come so far in treatment with new and more effective medications and yet this asinine stigma still exists.

The only way to combat it is to talk about it.  The more we try to keep it under wraps (it&#039;s depression for me), the  less chance we have to confront ignorance and change perceptions.

My personal opinion is that people fear mental illnesses because they don&#039;t understand them or they don&#039;t know anyone in their personal lives who deals with it on a daily basis.  

I must triage 20 people a shift.  I would venture that at least 75% of them are taking an SSRI or a benzodiazepine for anxiety.  We see ads for SSRIs on television in prime time.  With so much information out there, it is depressing (no pun intended) to think an educated surgeon would be so ignorant.

Part of what the health care team needs to realize is that underneath the medications, behind the patient presenting with psychosis to the ER, attached to the psych diagnosis is a human being.  Someone who deserves to be respected and cared for and treated with dignity.  Why is that so hard to get across to people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have come so far in understanding psychiatric conditions, come so far in treatment with new and more effective medications and yet this asinine stigma still exists.</p>
<p>The only way to combat it is to talk about it.  The more we try to keep it under wraps (it&#8217;s depression for me), the  less chance we have to confront ignorance and change perceptions.</p>
<p>My personal opinion is that people fear mental illnesses because they don&#8217;t understand them or they don&#8217;t know anyone in their personal lives who deals with it on a daily basis.  </p>
<p>I must triage 20 people a shift.  I would venture that at least 75% of them are taking an SSRI or a benzodiazepine for anxiety.  We see ads for SSRIs on television in prime time.  With so much information out there, it is depressing (no pun intended) to think an educated surgeon would be so ignorant.</p>
<p>Part of what the health care team needs to realize is that underneath the medications, behind the patient presenting with psychosis to the ER, attached to the psych diagnosis is a human being.  Someone who deserves to be respected and cared for and treated with dignity.  Why is that so hard to get across to people?</p>
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		<title>By: purplesque</title>
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		<dc:creator>purplesque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many times,....decide not to present all of the options?

All the time. Common consults: &#039;Old psych meds&#039;, &#039;patient known to psych, &#039;patient with issues&#039;. Worse, patients who have No psychiatric diagnosis or meds whatsoever, but have simply committed the crime of living to a ripe old age have to get a psych consult just because the surgeon doesn&#039;t have the time to talk to them. As a psychiatry resident it pisses me off, and I have no hesitation in indicating the uselessness of the consult in my report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times,&#8230;.decide not to present all of the options?</p>
<p>All the time. Common consults: &#8216;Old psych meds&#8217;, &#8216;patient known to psych, &#8216;patient with issues&#8217;. Worse, patients who have No psychiatric diagnosis or meds whatsoever, but have simply committed the crime of living to a ripe old age have to get a psych consult just because the surgeon doesn&#8217;t have the time to talk to them. As a psychiatry resident it pisses me off, and I have no hesitation in indicating the uselessness of the consult in my report.</p>
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		<title>By: Mexico Medical Student &#187; Grand Rounds 5:11 - Death and Transfiguration</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mexico Medical Student &#187; Grand Rounds 5:11 - Death and Transfiguration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lady, Sara at My Sad Alter Ego appropriately rails against a fellow clinician pointing out that depression does not equal lack of competence. The patient lies in his bed, breathing heavily, his heartbeat marked by syncopated triplet rhythms [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sophie in the Moonlight</title>
		<link>http://mysadalterego.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/166/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie in the Moonlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh. This is why I hate dealing with new medical &quot;professionals&quot;.  I recently had a TIA (aka mini-stroke), had to be flown by helicopter whole works, and this doofus comes in my room the next morning, my room in the stroke unit - which THEY put me in, I did not request it, he looks at me for 2 seconds and says, &quot;The ER docs wouldn&#039;t say this, but they were thinking it, and I agree - this is just a conversion disorder. You&#039;re bipolar and obviously not dealing with it well and you&#039;ve made up these symptoms to compensate.&quot;  I thought my husband was going to kill him. He said, &quot;You OBVIOUSLY do not know my wife. She Mentors other bipolar patients and she doesn&#039;t make crap up.&quot;

I came to them with:
*BP 193/110
*Left side weakness/left-hand numbness
*RAGING headache left-side
*family history 3 generations worth of death by TIA/stroke by mid-50&#039;s
*50% blockage of right carotid artery

Yeah, definitely all in my head.  My shrink was so SO angry. She&#039;s filing a report against the Risk Management team at his hospital.  She&#039;s had several patients with this problem and they were 1. female, 2. being treated for a mental illness, and 3. had VERY clear physical symptoms ranging from a ruptured eardrum to a mini-stroke. But the &quot;professionals&quot; just see lithium and the human patient no longer exists.  It&#039;s gotten to  a point where I ask new docs point blank if they are prejudiced against my bipolar disorder.

See. hot button issue there.  Sorry for the rant.

OH, and to the steroid injection person. I&#039;ve had a couple for my L5-S1 problems, 1 sent me into a moderate mania, and the other sent me into a 6 week agitated depression.  make sure you tell your shrink if you&#039;re going to have the injection so you&#039;re prepared.  And these psychiatric reactions are not just limited to those with pre-existing mental illness. Steroids are weird things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh. This is why I hate dealing with new medical &#8220;professionals&#8221;.  I recently had a TIA (aka mini-stroke), had to be flown by helicopter whole works, and this doofus comes in my room the next morning, my room in the stroke unit &#8211; which THEY put me in, I did not request it, he looks at me for 2 seconds and says, &#8220;The ER docs wouldn&#8217;t say this, but they were thinking it, and I agree &#8211; this is just a conversion disorder. You&#8217;re bipolar and obviously not dealing with it well and you&#8217;ve made up these symptoms to compensate.&#8221;  I thought my husband was going to kill him. He said, &#8220;You OBVIOUSLY do not know my wife. She Mentors other bipolar patients and she doesn&#8217;t make crap up.&#8221;</p>
<p>I came to them with:<br />
*BP 193/110<br />
*Left side weakness/left-hand numbness<br />
*RAGING headache left-side<br />
*family history 3 generations worth of death by TIA/stroke by mid-50&#8217;s<br />
*50% blockage of right carotid artery</p>
<p>Yeah, definitely all in my head.  My shrink was so SO angry. She&#8217;s filing a report against the Risk Management team at his hospital.  She&#8217;s had several patients with this problem and they were 1. female, 2. being treated for a mental illness, and 3. had VERY clear physical symptoms ranging from a ruptured eardrum to a mini-stroke. But the &#8220;professionals&#8221; just see lithium and the human patient no longer exists.  It&#8217;s gotten to  a point where I ask new docs point blank if they are prejudiced against my bipolar disorder.</p>
<p>See. hot button issue there.  Sorry for the rant.</p>
<p>OH, and to the steroid injection person. I&#8217;ve had a couple for my L5-S1 problems, 1 sent me into a moderate mania, and the other sent me into a 6 week agitated depression.  make sure you tell your shrink if you&#8217;re going to have the injection so you&#8217;re prepared.  And these psychiatric reactions are not just limited to those with pre-existing mental illness. Steroids are weird things.</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
		<link>http://mysadalterego.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/166/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah. I also wanted to say that I am fortunate enough to have the medical education to know when and who really does need to know and to take it upon myself to safely omit information. But again, that leads to things like that gynecologist seeking revenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah. I also wanted to say that I am fortunate enough to have the medical education to know when and who really does need to know and to take it upon myself to safely omit information. But again, that leads to things like that gynecologist seeking revenge.</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah - I think that the evaluation must have been done by a psychiatrist speaking her native language (no shortage of those). She must have been informed of the reason for the visit. Or just the nature of the questions (do you know the year? the month? who&#039;s president?&quot;) would have been obvious. 

About the other thing, you might want to try not even putting the explanation. Enough doctors are awkward about mental illness that they probably won&#039;t even ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah &#8211; I think that the evaluation must have been done by a psychiatrist speaking her native language (no shortage of those). She must have been informed of the reason for the visit. Or just the nature of the questions (do you know the year? the month? who&#8217;s president?&#8221;) would have been obvious. </p>
<p>About the other thing, you might want to try not even putting the explanation. Enough doctors are awkward about mental illness that they probably won&#8217;t even ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Katharine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katharine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. This get&#039;s me upset too... and I like how you brought it back to your own fear at the end... So much of my anger about various injustices or shortcomings within the mental health industry is simply a veneer for my fear, my absolute completely terrified panic, that one day, I will be the one to suffer, helplessly, at the hands of the current mental health construct or what have you. And at certain points I guess I have suffered as such, but I could have had it a lot worse - and it&#039;s a constant fear that I live with everyday, this extreme pressure to remain stable because I don&#039;t trust the safety net that would be there (?) if I were to every &quot;fall&quot; again in any significant sort of way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. This get&#8217;s me upset too&#8230; and I like how you brought it back to your own fear at the end&#8230; So much of my anger about various injustices or shortcomings within the mental health industry is simply a veneer for my fear, my absolute completely terrified panic, that one day, I will be the one to suffer, helplessly, at the hands of the current mental health construct or what have you. And at certain points I guess I have suffered as such, but I could have had it a lot worse &#8211; and it&#8217;s a constant fear that I live with everyday, this extreme pressure to remain stable because I don&#8217;t trust the safety net that would be there (?) if I were to every &#8220;fall&#8221; again in any significant sort of way.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sara, that post was an excruciatingly difficult one to read. i feel for that woman, and in some ways, I&#039;m glad she was not fluent in english; perhaps some of the absurd humiliation will not make it through the language barrier. i hope so. 

i routinely, when i fill out forms for healthcare providers, list the medications (antidepressant and mood stabilizer) along with the explanation &quot;maintenance medication for (bipolar) depression&quot; - regardless of whether it&#039;s &quot;maintenance&quot; or not. i understand that any doctor prescribing medication needs to know whatever i&#039;m taking. but my dermatologist/gynecologist/dentist/etc do not need to know any other details unless I choose to share them. I may have a mental illness....but that doesn&#039;t remove my autonomy or individual right to decide who knows what about my private life and experiences. Which, I realize, is exactly the point of the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sara, that post was an excruciatingly difficult one to read. i feel for that woman, and in some ways, I&#8217;m glad she was not fluent in english; perhaps some of the absurd humiliation will not make it through the language barrier. i hope so. </p>
<p>i routinely, when i fill out forms for healthcare providers, list the medications (antidepressant and mood stabilizer) along with the explanation &#8220;maintenance medication for (bipolar) depression&#8221; &#8211; regardless of whether it&#8217;s &#8220;maintenance&#8221; or not. i understand that any doctor prescribing medication needs to know whatever i&#8217;m taking. but my dermatologist/gynecologist/dentist/etc do not need to know any other details unless I choose to share them. I may have a mental illness&#8230;.but that doesn&#8217;t remove my autonomy or individual right to decide who knows what about my private life and experiences. Which, I realize, is exactly the point of the post.</p>
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		<title>By: dragonfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>dragonfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is so sad that that happened to that lady (and to so many people). And the stigma continues. Since when is a psychiatrist needed to see if someone is competent (EVEN someone with a &quot;shock horror&quot; psych problem). In some ways the medical culture is getting better, and in some ways things never change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is so sad that that happened to that lady (and to so many people). And the stigma continues. Since when is a psychiatrist needed to see if someone is competent (EVEN someone with a &#8220;shock horror&#8221; psych problem). In some ways the medical culture is getting better, and in some ways things never change.</p>
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